I'll shush.
Ok, after I say one thing.
Ok.. now I'll hush.
Beauty
Moderators: KimberlyS, Eileen (SO)

Well? me too. I know that I did not ask to be this way, and I also did not ask to be brought into this world. I was not consulted about social rules being made that would deny me existance and I refuse to accept them. It is my firm beleif that all crossdressers no matter where on the spectrum of how one feels it, needs to come forward and embrace who they are. Stop apologizing to spouses, children, brothers, sisters, parents for being what we are.Kathy (SO) wrote:
WHen I read the posts from cd's who are still working on self acceptance, still trying to quit, continously appologizing to their wives and family for bring this upon their life....well I just am in shock.
CJ wrote:Hi all,
It's been almost four months since the last post in this thread. I thought I'd try to revive it because it's an important subject. Our gender variance may be a gift to some but, to others, it's led them into hard times indeed. For most of us, I guess it's shaped both our positive traits as well as our darker, more unpleasant facets (such as shame- and guilt-based thinking, obssessiveness, self-loathing, etc.).
When I first read Kathy's original post, above, I took it at face value--as the thoughts of one woman who, though comfortable (to say the least) around crossdressers, has difficulty dealing (as do many other SO's) with many a crossdresser's self-acceptance issues.
Well, I've been thinking about this a little more (I'm sure "thinking" will be the death of me some day!) and there seems to be a hidden assumption here; namely, that a CD's self-acceptance issues shouldn't include his SO's inability to accept that part of him that is still struggling to accept himself. In other words, and more plainly, there seems to be a kind of reasoning that wants to say that a CD's self-acceptance issues will (or should) vanish the moment someone else accepts him for who he is. I'm just not sure it's that simple.
I see a parallel here between an SO who's only just found out about her DH's crossdressing needing time (and lots of it) in order to process the entailments of that discovery and a CD who, in a similar fashion, cannot undo years of damage to his self-esteem in a mere moment, just because his SO accepts who he is. Both of these situations require time.
Kathy (and what I'll say here is not a criticism, just an observation), I'm inclined to think that a woman who runs away (yet again) from a man because he has trouble accepting himself as a gender-variant individual will only reinforce that man's view of himself as being somehow defective and unworthy of love and attention, thereby increasing the difficulty he has in accepting himself. On the other hand, a woman who sees enough goodness and kindness in that man, despite his baggage, and who decides to stick by him may very well set in motion the kind of emotional turnaround that man needs to do in order, precisely, to start accepting himself for who he is.
Now, I realize that (as you, yourself, mentioned, Kathy) no woman wants to become her DH's exclusive therapist or cheerleader, her DH'S sole source of emotional support--especially if that support will require all her attention or energy. It's draining. It's like being dragged under the surface of a choppy sea by a drowning person as you try to drag him to shore. But that's just it, though. There is a shore. The love, patience, and understanding a spouse can give to a spouse will often be a catalyst for self-acceptance and, assuming it's true that we cannot love someone else if we don't first learn to love ourselves, then the love, patience, and understanding given will one day be returned tenfold. I've seen this happen in my own life and I think it's the main reason I've both come to accept myself more fully as well as remained good friends with my former SO's.
We all have our bugs, quirks, and issues (and crossdressing is sometimes the least of these) but when a person finds a mate who doesn't "run, screaming into the night" because of these issues, chances are that person will come to see that he or she isn't less loveable because of those issues: and this, on its own, can be like a great shove in the direction of self-acceptance.
A long-time friend, a former SO (my current roommate), once asked me whatever possessed me to stick by her, all those years ago, when she was so obviously deeply, deeply troubled (to the point of being self-destructive). I told her that it was because, in spite of the dark, dark things she was going through (and, yes, that she put me through, as well), I always sensed that she was genuine, authentic, unrelentingly herself. That's all that mattered to me then. And it's all that matters to me now, twenty-five years down the road. Today, she attributes much of her capacity to love and accept herself to my willingness (and ability) to see (and to love) the person that she was--so hurt, so alone--behind the mask of her wildness and aggressive FTW attitude.
Having said all this, Kathy, I totally understand that each and every one of us is different in our desires and our needs as far as intimate relationships (or even friendships) go. Life is short, there's no denying that. We do what we must in order to waste as little time in finding what best makes us happy. But, sometimes, in our haste, we pass by a mud-covered diamond, thinking it's only a worthless pebble.
Anyway, Kathy, I just want to say, in closing, how so very valuable your presence in the online world is to people such as me--the single crossdresser who's "up front" (although not necessarily "in your face") about who he is. It gives me hope that I won't be forever "unmatched." Thank you for just being who you are.
Love,
CJ
