IQ??

[CJ]

Hi all,

I spent the weekend at my father's. Now retired, it used to be his job to administer IQ tests (amongst other things); we debated the whole mythos surrounding intelligence and its measurement. He's of the opinion that, as Julie pointed out earlier in this very thread, intelligence is a complex of abilities and capacities that are only somewhat tied in with physiological and neurological predispositions. Social and economic conditions (education and so forth) as well as an individual's "embededness" (cultural awareness) are determining factors in the rise of intelligence.

A person with an average (or even lower than average) IQ is no less able to participate in the life of her cultural surroundings than is a person with a higher IQ. Goleman's pop-psych ideas about "emotional intelligence" are interesting in this regard; a high IQ won't necessarily help one foster healthy relationships and manage real-world situations and crises all that well. The ability to synthesize, detect patterns, and generally be at ease in the world of abstractions, concepts, ideas, and notions is absolutely no guarantee of a fulfilling life, in terms of mental health and interpersonal relationships. Sometimes, it can even be a hindrance.

Ultimately, having a high IQ is a bit like owning a Ford-McLaren F1; not much use if you're a quadraplegic, except for putting it on display.

Love,
CJ

[Virginia]

Bernice; I was somewhat involved with the advent or the demise as you would have it of the F-8. They came out with the "Super Crusader" which flew rings around the F-4. The only reason we ended up with the F-4 was the "powers that be" wanted a two place multi-use fighter/bomber.
Someone asked about my favorite story: well hard to believe but we were dodging SAM's and I looked off my starboard wing for my wingman, 'cept it weren't my wingman, it was a SAM, blew past me, but I could read the Russian writing on the side, could not interpret it but did not see my name on it either so here I be. Carrier take-offs are like a cross between the first time you make love and your first car crash - you don't know if you like it or not, but you are damn sure going back and do it again. The landing is simply a controlled crash and anyone you can walk away from is a good one. I did hear the story about the crash and the guy ending up in the O-Club! Some of us actually believed that one. There is the one about the T-34 we started out in that they were so forgiving that one guy fell out of his over norther Alabama and the plance came home without him!! Love ya. Debbie

[Jessie]

Ok I read the last post and thought it was intersting enough to say this. I saw or read or something of sort about seeing a fighter jet that lost it (starboard, right wing) and they where able land perfectaly. Now is that story true or what.

Jessie

[Virginia]

Jessie: Unless the plane converted to a helicopter, I would have "punched -out" Fortunately, I never had the experience of leaving a perfectly good airplane. There were interesting stories that came out of "Nam", but I am afraid that landing with no wing ain't one of them.
Love, Deborah

[Jessie]

Deborah

The fighter jet only had one wing. At I believe it was fighter in the finaly test days before being manufactered. I think I saw it on the discovery channel or something like that. The fact that the plane landed safely with only one wing really impressed the bras I belive who where evaluting the event.

Jessie

[Bernice]

I confess, I'm stumped. Voyager (first to circumnavigate the world without refueling) lost part of one wing on takeoff, but it was not a jet, and was never manufactured. Many aircraft have landed successfully with one engine missing, but only one wing makes for a very lop-sided and almost always unflyable death trap. There was a post elsewhere a couple months ago about two F-18 fighters that had a mid-air, and both landed OK. Part of one wing was damaged.

Julie: Did your dad know Kelly Johnson? My wife's favorite airplanes were all his designs (P-38, U2, SR-71).

Jessie: I used to watch Discovery all the time, mostly for "Wings". Then they moved "Wings" to a premium cable servie tier ($100/mo) and I never got to watch again. :x

Everyone else: I am SO sorry I took this valuable thread COMPLETELY off topic.

Should we post an "airplane lover's lane" thread?

Hugs,

Bernice

[Marilyn]

I have taken this, and similar tests, in the past. And always associate about as much belief in them, as everyone here has...

I scored 135, Visual Mathmetician. Neither is surprising. It is simply a matter of the type of work I do. But I am quite certain that every one of you could put together a test that I couldn't score above 50 on. So it ends up being about what you've been exposed to, through education, life experiences, even anecdotal discussions, rather than how smart you are.

Rather odd, but a line from "Smokey and the Bandit" seems appropriate here... "It depends on what part of the country you're standing in, as to just how dumb you are." (Referring to knowledge of local culture.)

Also, as to the generalization that CD's are of higher intellect (and let me apologize now if the statement(s) were made in jest), but the appearance of this is also a result of some measure of the environment, and many other areas, I'm sure.

This statement makes the assumption that the CD'ers on-line are a representation of the broader base. Rather we are a representation of a portion of a group that interacts in an on-line community. I am certain there are those CD's who can not afford a computer/access; are not interested in access or rarely use the Net; as well as those who have never thought that a community like this, or others, would exist.

If anything, we fit the stereotypical norm for 'versed' Internet users: adult, well-educated, professionals.

Just my nickel's worth.

Hugs.

Hugs.

[Stephanie Higgins]

but do such test really define how smart a person is? My best friend in HS had an IQ that was off the charts, had a photografic memory. He was a member of MENSA (I think that is what it's called) and ended up with three different DR degrees. He was one of the dumest guys I ever knew. He died from his injuries from a car accident he was in while high on drugs.

These show how good you do on these tests...
that is all

Stephanie,
I tied with you...136. From what I understand, It's not "what" you know, but "do you know how to think." I'm gonna bug CJ to see what she gets. Now I'm curious. She'll probably chicken out. (Yes, I'm an instigator!)
XOXO, Amber

YAY another 136!!

Okay, okay, all. I took the test. (Amber, you're something else, woman! ).

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not sure what IQ is supposed to be measuring. I defer to our geneticist, Julie, in this regard.

My results: 142. According to the test, a Visionary Philosopher. <Snort> Hardly! (I have trouble paying my bills on time! )

Love,
CJ

I knew it!! Of course CJ got 142 that is awesome!!
but I must say that I saw it coming