I find it interesting...

[CJ]

Amélie wrote (and hit the nail squarely on the head when writing): most girls have some degree of fault with their dressing, maybe not a lot for some, but there is a more relaxed(?) style to dressing for females than there is for trannies.

That is so true... and many GG's will (and do) point this out to us endlessly. Other than for a special occasion, women tend to wear what is comfortable, unprepossessing though a given look may be (and, as Virginia loves to point out, you can sometimes witness that look firsthand on weekend shopping trips); for us, it seems we need to make a special occasion out of every time we dress. Perhaps that's as it should be, in all fairness; dressing doesn't have the daily matter-of-factness for us that it has for gene-gals.

Also, possibly, another reason women have more relaxed dress codes than "trannies" do is that women, unlike crossdressers and transsexuals, have learned not to care so much about what people may think of their looks... they're comfortable just being women, regardless of how they're dressed. Just a thought.

Well, we've strayed a bit from the original post by Kandis about the reasons we do what we do (and are who we are) but that's life, ain't it? A meandering river? It's sorta fun to go with the flow once in a while.

Love,
CJ

[Frances Jewell]

CJ, that was incredible. In all honesty and this is with the greatest sincerity, the way you took my glancing mention of the Cave and turned it into something meaningful to this discussion was Amazing. If only my College Philosophy instructor had been so capable, I might have gotten something out of school. Thank you !




Frances

[Jeannie]

Hi Girls
It is true CJ we have more clothes and shoes than most GGs. It's our nature. To each her own. If you GGs want to walk around Walmart in flipflops,sweat pants, and a husband beater, knock yourselves out.
Maybe I'm wrong CJ, but the women are turning into men. The statistics are scary.

10. There was report of bullying by bosses on NPR. They said 42% are women.
9. The percent of men staying home with the kids is climbing.
8. 28% of all men know how to vacuum.
7. 19% of all women now wear boxers.
6. 39% of divorced men get the kids! .......OMG! Kfed!
5. Women have taken the lead in advanced degrees.
4. If you take a woman out to dinner and order for her,she sticks a fork in your eye.
3. They never fall for that old standby line at the bar anymore CJ. "Hey Bitch! I know you want me bad!"
2. More men wear heels than most GGs.

And the number one and most disturbing is:

1. 53% of all women have the remote control. Oh the humanity!

It's the process of natural selection. Only the strongest of a species survive. Most men have the hair on their knuckles wearing off from scraping on the ground. They are still waiting for their thumbs. Just a theory CJ.

Love
Jeannie

PS. As for a degree of fault with their dressing,it's no my fault. Three words GGs" Get a mirror!"

[CJ]

Jeannie darling,

You, girl, seriously need to get your head examined... so that we can discover what your secret is an make it available to everyone out there!

Three words, GGs: "Get a mirror!"

Well, my guess, Jeannie, is that there must be a CD out there who has a mirror (or six) to spare. ("Vanity, thy name is transvestite!" and all that jazz. )

Fran,

Thanks for the compliment. If it's true that we get out of school what we put into it, then the fun I had there can be explained by my already being interested in these subjects when I first sat in a uni classroom. Today, somewhat older and somewhat wiser, I realize (uh, like Socrates?) that I know very little, if not nothing.

Being a member of this forum has been, for me, an education in itself. It's made me realize that, though we may each have our own theories regarding transgenderedness, we all have this in common, that we're curious about who we are and, by extension, we're curious about other human beings. This, Aristotle said, is a defining characteristic of human beings: "All men by nature desire to know" and "Philosophy begins in wonder" (and what Aristotle called "philosophy" we, today, call "science").

School is where your mind is, not just your body. I've had a few teachers here, on the forum, and I'm eternally grateful to them. They didn't set out to teach anything in particular to anyone but, by their own simple actions and views, they had some fine lessons to offer to anyone who just stopped to listen for a spell. I'll point out just four. Gracie, who taught me the value and importance of being oneself, emotionally. Elizabeth, who taught me that following one's dreams is the duty of anyone who hoped to have something meaningful to contribute to the world around one. Jeannie, who reinforced something I already knew: "It's better to laugh about it than to cry about it... our world is an absurd one... embrace the absurdity... and live." And Amélie, who taught me that what one learns "on the street" has a sharper survival value (not necessarily better nor higher, just sharper) than mere classroom instruction.

Funny thing is, I'm starting to suspect that the reason I am the way I am is that it was a good way for fate to have me exchange thoughts and ideas and feelings with the great folks on this board. How's that for a theory, eh?

Love,
CJ

[Caith]

That sounds like great karma, CJ. I'm just glad you're here to share with us all.

[Frances Jewell]

I have given this a few more moments of thought, books have been written on many different subjects that will attempt to infer why any individual does anything, why mountains are climbed, god knows you wouldn't get me on one, why people bungee jump, or jump from planes, why artists express their talents in many forms and mediums. In my opinion what we do is represent an artistic creativity, a challenge for excitement just as great as climbing Mount Everest, a form of expression that pushes the limits of our individual acceptance of danger. Certainly this doesn't cover everyone, but lets be honest who hasn't like Caith said found mens clothing particularly drab. For me its my canvas to paint on and my mind paints such vibrant images of beauty when I try so feebly to express myself.


Fran

[Absaroka]

I loved Amelie's comment about us being family with her the evil sister locked in the basement. Now I'm trying to figure out who I would be. I guess I would be the eccentric or maybe demented reclusive elderly maiden aunt. We see her gliding through the woods at night and we think maybe she lives in a shack somewhere in the back forty. Someone ought to go see if there is actually something there some day. Do we even own that property? I can't remember......

I liked the whole cave discussion also.

I also liked the idea of we have all sorts of different modes of expression, her citing a a punk girl as an example. People often talk about how boring mens clothes are compared to womens but I find I like the same thing in womens clothes as in mens- simple colors, casual, comfort above all. At this point I actually pass off some of my femme clothes as guy clothes.

One thing I've come to realize about myself is that I don't do much of anything twice. I do it once and either never again because I didn't like it, or all the time. I liked a dress once when I was 8. Here I am.

Absaroka