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As a teenager I remember my friends mother smoking Marlborough light 100's. I know to some a disgusting habit. But I remember her looking so attractive while she smoked. The feminine way she held her cigarette, took a drag and let the smoke out. I not long after, I had one of my own, then tried again and again. At this time I never had thoughts of crossdressing. I used to imitate her when I smoked and I enjoyed it. Didn't realize it, but I was feeling my femme side. I was a closet smoker. Years later when I had more femme feelings and experimented with bras and panties I switched to Virginia Slim 120's, a real "woman's" cigarette. I loved the way I felt smoking like a woman, still do. I feel if I quit smoking I lose the chance to feel femme daily like if you took away my chances to dress up. Anyone else ever feel this way? Weird? how can I quit without losing that feeling?

Interesting that Marlboro's were first marketed toward women, the filter was red to hide lipstick stains. Sales were flat, until an ad agency came up with the Marlboro Man image.
Babbs, I don't know your age, but when I grew up, a non smoking adult was rare. With all the information available, when I see teenagers smoking now days, I just don't understand why they do it. One dear friend started smoking about the year I was born. Now, with part of one lung gone and throat biopsies, she has to carry oxygen to get around.
Surely, there must be more feminine habits you could swap for smoking. Shoes or jewelry, for instance. And probably less expensive considering the taxes on cigarettes.

Eileen

Never had that feeling. My mother smoked when I was a youngster, but it didn't cause me to start. My granddad may have been more of an influence, seeing I started with cigars.

Quit cold turkey in the 80's. Didn't want my kids to pick up the habit. My daughter eventually did, however, likely peer pressure.

I suggest you think about having a voice than can never again approximate a fem voice, once the smoking affects it. Maybe that will help you quit.

Eileen, I'm in my fifties, so like you most adults smoked when i was a kid. I was not like most guys my age who smoked to be macho, probably why I was a closet smoker.

My husband and I both grew up with fathers that smoked. His mom never did, mine quit when she got TB and spent 18 months in a sanitartium.
Keeping a non smoking home, we notice a big difference when visiting friends that smoke. Even going out doors to smoke helps only a little bit. The smell is in your hair and clothes.
Keeping a sachet in my intimates drawer, they smell fresh and feminine as I put them on. A smoker can't appreciate that same sensation.
I don't want to come off as an anti-smoker prude, but when someone asks for help to quit, I have plenty of opinions.
Besides the poor quality of health, voice, and smell, over come the addiction because you decide you want to.
You'll be a prettier lady.

Eileen

Thanks Eileen. I think my issue where I get to dress privately about 2 hrs a week, I find little things I can do all week long that no one notices but can make me feel ladylike. Like a spray of my wife's perfume enough that I smell it on me all day but others don't notice, or a pair of nice panties to wear, nice feminine moisturizing cream etc...Having a VS 120 to smoke unfortunately is part of that.

This is another example of how we girls make associations of what's feminine and what's not so feminine. Cigarettes aren't really any differnt than nylon panties versus cotten panties. It's what caught us at the time we were looking at being/trying/investigating fem things. I associate petticoats as my example of very feminine. Had I come across bloomers first, maybe that would be those would be my ulitmate fem thing.

Smell is a very powerful sense and if I remember correctly is the one that triggers the most vivid memories. So here we have mom with cigarettes. Mom is seen as very feminine and then enforce it all with the smell of cigarettes. Such as how things turned out.

How to get past cigarettes? Sadly, there are the three problems: the cigarettes themselves, their smell and the memories triggered, and then that association that was made. I would start with the addiction of the cigarette. Once that need goes and along with it the smell, then there might be room to change the association.

My mother was a big smoker, but I never became one. I prefer to smoke something else, a bit greener, but anyway, I get the whole sexiness of smoking, as my ex-girlfriend, a beautiful brunette, smoked, so I may have been attracted more because of it., so I find myself trying to emulate her beauty, and the smoking is a part of it. Maybe its the whole oral sensation, but I like to smoke disposable hookahs when dressed, but as far as reg cigs, they are not healthy, so again, I'm glad I'm not hooked.
~Samantha

I do not smoke, both of my parents smoked, they are now passed away. Enough said...

Erica.

I started smoking cigaretts when I was in high school and quit many times. I also enjoyed a pipe when ai had the time to relax.

I finally quit after establishing a closer relationship with Jesus. It happened as a result of a nere collision in traffic. When I finally was stoped my right hand was in my shirt pocket for a cigarett. This also happened in front of the chirch that I was attending. I took the whole pack and thew it out on the street. I looked over at the church and it reminded me of one of Jesus words," You can serve but one master'.
I never smoked again and was never even tempted.

Don't missread me. I have never judged anyone elses Chrianity by the enjoument activities. The Lord knows my shortcomings and that is what I have to take care of.

My daughters had been bugging me to quit for many years and I should have done it for them because I would have and still would lay down my very life for them.

I do prattle on!

Rhanda

Does this really merit discussion? Smoking deteriorates your health level and proves to be detrimental as you age. My goal is to be a healthy Centurion. I've shed all of those "feel good" nonsense concepts left over from my youth that I've witnessed so many others succomb to. I live in Las Vegas and I see people indulge in their excesses on a daily basis. There are very few old ones. And, respectfully, this includes organized religions, the guilt trip industry. I've successfully eliminated smoke, drink, stress and voodoo nonsense and, replaced them with health, nutrition, focus and calm. You see my avatar image? I'm damn near 60. This really does work.

I never considered smoking sexy, especially when I think of the stench it leaves.

Carla, I do agree with you and I am glad that I decided more than forty years ago to take better care of myself. You see a "girl" who is nearly 86 in my avitar. Some of us that are my age will live to be a century and a quarter or better. The trouble is that the boomers who are in charge want to retire in their early sixties and I am not ready to do so untill my health tells me that I should.
I am a crossdresser only because I like to be a beautiful man and that justifies me to dress in beautiful clothing and wear makeup when I want, without any interferance or objection from others. I do believe in being modest and concentrate on looking sharp and attractive.

Rhanda

ok....here it comes...

Yes. I smoke. I have smoked ever since they gave me cigarettes in my rations in the Army! Believe me, it was one of the better portions in those rations? LOL.

Anyway, I know all the health risks. I know it's looked upon today as a filty habit. But you know it wasn't always that way. Once upon a time, I was actually viewed as a very productive sort. I smoked, but I also turned out incredible amounts of finished work at a professional level, thanks. However, the tide began to change and slowly, more and more of my freedoms began to erode. Suddenly it seemed, I was obligated to begin 'hiding' my habit and smoke from all other people. Now, given it is legal, and it doesn't cause my brain to see things that aren't really there, it seems somehow a little 'unfair?', or at the least inconvenient? I'm willing to put up with that of course, because as much as anyone else doesn't see it, I enjoy smoking. It's stupid, silly, and counter to living forever...but then again...none of will live forever now will we? No matter how much ultra pure water, excellent health habits, great medicine, etc. , nobody I know of has evaded the inevitable.

Now, as long as that's sort of understood...I want to live and enjoy life. Part of enjoying for me is the occassional cigarette. I'm sorry in advance to those who might be offended by all this, but it's my life, and my choice? At least, it used to be.

What if we turned things around a bit. Personally....SUV's truly offend me. They burn excess amounts of fuel. They consume far more raw materials than a more sedate sedan might, and there is little reason for every petite blond in the US to be driving something the size of a house to the mall. They blind my view ahead, behind, and on both sides of me on the freeway. And they kill a lot of people. What if we decided to start making people who drive SUV's feel like they no longer belong in polite society? For that matter, how many more dogs and cats do we need? I could go on and on....but the whole point is. It's an individual decision and should remain that way?

Hell...I gotta go have a smoke now....LOL

Hope

While I smoked for a short period when adolescent I have never had the urge to smoke when dressed nor has the urge to smoke ever been associated with my dressing.