Evolving new species Is Virginia right?

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Darlene wrote:
In part Beauty wrote: Am I chicken or what? :) Is it wrong to like being simple? Somebody has to be, right? :wink:
Hey Beauty I ain't touching that with a ten foot poll LOL. [-(
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Cj, Honey you are a beautiful person!!! Thanks for being you! What with Cathy Anderson's treatist on Jung and your wonderful insight and all my other sisters offering their own input - we are definitely learning from one another!
I will answer your second to the last paragraph ( and yes I agree I think you and I are basically on the same page). Now I don't mean to coop the thread, but I can only speak for Virginia. When she first began making her persence felt, strongly enough for me to say "Whoa!? What is going on here?" At first I really enjoyed her dressing up, make-up, stocking, heels, the entire battle armourment. But evolution for me took place too! I began to notice that dressed, "I" took on a different (personality - if you will) a kinder, gentler person! How's this??? Then I began a conscious effort to carry that kinder, gentler person with me even "en drab," and was actually amazed at the response I got from people. To actually listen to what they were saying, (people do notice that, are you actually listening to me or just pretending and waiting to jump in with your own comments?), reaching out and gently touching someone on the arm or hand.- damn! people actual like that - not in a sexual way, but just to be recognized as another human being! Wow! Now if I can just make it come naturally, and not have to think about it before I do it! It seems to come almost automatically with Virginia but, en drab? well, it is somewhat thought about and forced, but it is done so I will happily continue on my own "Magicla Mystery Tour," and continue to look to my sisters for guidance!
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Hi all.
Reaching out and gently touching someone on the arm or hand.- damn! people actual like that - not in a sexual way, but just to be recognized as another human being! Wow! Now if I can just make it come naturally, and not have to think about it before I do it! It seems to come almost automatically with Virginia but, en drab? well, it is somewhat thought about and forced.
As CJ has mentioned we often relate to the world through the way we see our world (through our reality as we see it). This has focused here very plainly for me.

I have never seen myself as two different people. That is to say Alex or Darlene. And the reason for that is what Virginia speaks about above comes naturally (for me) when dressed in drab or in fem.

I identify closer with Kathy I am one person, and what is good enough for Darlene is good enough for Alex. Both parts of me need to be free. If Alex is not free to demonstrate the same emotions as Darlene; then in my opinion some part of Alex is repressed. Alex then is a manufactured product.

I now see cross-dressing as being the (vehicle if you will) that allows one to express the emotions that have been repressed in Alex. And the more they are repressed in Alex the more they will show up in Darlene, and make it appear that there are two separate identities. As for myself I am now convinced of that. That is why it is healthy for us, that is why it is a gift…. Magical?? Yes…. perhaps.... Mystical??? Not so much any more.

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Post by Virginia »

Darlene,
Honey you will always be "Mystical" to me!!!
Love ya, Sis
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Post by Pauli »

A very interesting topic indeed!
but.. "the next step in human evolution?" aren't we being just a bit "big headed" about this??
I think I'm just not keen enough on biology and Darwinism to make a serious statement about this subject, but I have to disagree with DonnaT on some point: fodd habits and health are definitively getting worse every minute in modern western society. Physical changes in our genes depends on environmet and lifestyle. (take for example the problems of overweight and epidemies like flu)
Anyway, I think CD should be considered as a powerful psychological treatment, or, in Darlene's words: "a way to express the emotions that have been repressed". Perhaps when mankind finally evolves, there will be no more gender issues or manufactured ways of life...
To be continued...
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Hi all,

Heh. It just occured to me: perhaps we are heading toward a more androgynous world because of biological and physiological processes but not in a way we'd expect. Over the last few decades, pollutants we've been spewing into our rivers and lakes (such as PCB's, polychlorinated biphenyls) have had a "feminizing" effect on male fish and amphibian populations, leading to an increase in physiological androgyny in these animals. Some researchers believe the decrease in the human male sperm count over the last twenty years or so may be attributable to such environmental factors. Welcome to evolution, eh? :-k

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Post by Cathy L. Anderson »

Hi Pauli,

Welcome to the forum! :) :)
Pauli wrote:but.. "the next step in human evolution?" aren't we being just a bit "big headed" about this??
I agree with your point. I don't see CDing as the next step in evolution.
Rather, I see the evolutionary step as being one of achieving greater integration between between our rational intellect and our more unconscious, bodily instincts. What I mean is that I believe (or hope) that human beings are improving generally in this way.

I think most modern people struggle with this conflict. In the case of CDers, it might be a little more obvious.

In a sense, the fact that we can all come together and communicate about our experiences, rather than struggling with them by ourselves, is a part of this evolution.

Cathy
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