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Hi there,

I posted my progress on the other site and I think I'll bring it here for those who may one day think about this.

Beauty

Written by MzzBeauty on 12 Jul 2003 15:11:08:

Hi gals and guys,

Well, last night I had my first treatment from Laser Hair Removal. It was fantastic!

This morning when I woke up my face looks and feels so smooth.

The laser surgeon I went to has been in the business for over 15 years and she said that she's never seen anything like this Laser. She's been using for several years now.

The laser is called the CoolGlide Laser. The treatment is kind of expensive, but if you think about how much you'll spend on razors, shaving cream, or electric razors in a lifetime it's more than worth it.

I have 3 more treatments, then I'll most likely not have to shave again for years, if ever.

The person I went to said she's had a GG who hasn't shaved her legs in 2 years (client is now doing under arms). She's had the same success with those she's done the faces of. The first person to complete the process hasn't had hair grow back for over a year (client is now doing their legs).

She started off as an Electrologist and did that for a decade before she invested in this laser. Before she invested in a laser she said she was very pessimistic about the technology because from what she'd seen, at the time, they didn't work.

Then she said she heard about the CoolGlide and she researched it, had someone at the Patent office read about it and interviewed others who had started using it. She said the person who worked in the Patent office was floored and told her, "Go for it! Thumbs up!" Those who had purchased it told her they were simply amazed with the success. So she said she decided to go for it and she and her clients are very happy she did.

It wasn't pain free, but it didn't bother me at all. Some of the hair was jumping out of my face on to her laser device (she showed me). After I was done the tingling went away in about 2 hours. The swelling (which I couldn't notice until she pointed it out) went down soon after. The process took about 30 minutes (cheeks, chin, upper lip). She said if I'd opted for electrolysis she would have done the area about the size of a dime and it would have taken 5 hours and there would have more swelling and a longer healing time.

The laser has very limited success with light hair (blonde, white, gray).

Lastly, she said she believes when the FDA looks at this device in a few years they'll change it from temporary to permanent hair removal. She said the FDA may be strict, but when something really works they do the right thing.

Just thought I'd pass on what happened to me. I'm so happy this morning!! My next appointment is in a month.

I promise I'll keep everyone updated on how this is going.

Here are some links for you. (No links to her, to show this isn't an ad for her services)

http://www.hairremovalforum.com/news4.htm
http://www.hairlasercenter.com/hair.html
http://www.resderm.com/cosmetictherapie ... Veins.html

Hey Katlene!!!!

CONGRATS on Graduating!!!

lol.. yes you did tell me we'd get together someday! LOL

Yes, Penny's response was great!

Regarding skin tone with the CoolGlide laser. The biggest bonus about the CoolGlide is the way it works on darker skin tones. For years I sat on the sidelines reading and watching news about lasers, BUT "sorry people of color".

"CoolGlide is the only laser hair removal system that can treat dark Hispanic, Mediterranean, Black skin without discoloring the pigment, without destroying the pigment." It's called the CoolGlide because of its refrigerated tip. It enables the laser to effectively treat the follicle without generating the heat of traditional lasers."
http://www.hairremovalforum.com/news4.htm

When I heard about it I thought, "This is waaaaaay too new to get excited about" Thankfully, I started reading testimonials (after a year or so) from folks who had it done successfully. Then I started reading reports from folks of color who were reporting success with the CoolGlide laser. I decided to do more research of the technology for myself. I was very impressed with the technology of this laser device. So finally when the ad appeared in my CD support group's newsletter I decided to give it a try. I'm pleased with both my new "hair removal person" (can't think of the right term) and my initial results. Of course I am only able to qualify this 3 days after my first visit though. lol! I can't say I have that much credibility, now can I?

I soooo respect both you and Penny. I rejoice at the way you both responded. It was loving and strong. Two qualities I love in friends!!!

You are also very right about Hyperpigmentation. She was very worried about this too and insisted that she use one of the lowest settings despite me saying, "Come on.. I can take it!" She even showed me the final pictures of someone who was darker than me. It was incredible! This client she refunded her money and gave her subsequent treatments for free, for letting her use her before and after pictures.

That's very interesting about the aging of skin. I will ask her about that when I go back in August.

I did contact her about the melatonin for the gray hairs and she said it sounds interesting, but she didn't think it would work unless it can somehow go into the root or be absorbed into the skin deep enough to reach the cell of the hair.

I'm so happy you responded!

I promise to keep you updated!

Beauty

p.s. You look fanstastic!!!!!

Written by Penny T on 14 Jul 2003 02:08:35:

As an answer to: Re: CoolGlide Laser Hair Removal - 1st Visit written by MzzBeauty on 14 Jul 2003 00:04:23:

You've been told the standard things about laser. First, everybody will say they expect THEIR laser to be declared permanant any day now. It's been going on for years, but no laser is even close to approvalThis one has had, according to your post, at least five+ years to be approved but hasn't made it yetI don't want to burst your bubble, but a few months isn't long enough to evaluate permanance(read on)and I don't want you to expect something other than what you will be getting!

To say only a small area would be complete compared to laser is comparing apples and oranges. Using Thermolysis my face and neck can be totally cleared(once)with a 80% success rate and little chance of skin damage in 2-3 hoursthis is better than laser's coverage because ALL visible hairs are treated, not just the dark-colored ones.

You say hair jumped out? did you consider the amount of energy needed to do this? It is well beyond the minimum needed to kill a follicle and well into the range of possible scarring. Hyperpigmentation can occur later on due to this much power being used, yet if they use less the laser rapidly loses effectiveness You don't need to take this risk!

And there's no way four treatments will do the job; hair growth cycles vary to such a degree that even if you got a 100% kill when treated, you'd still have 20% of your hair(and you're not even close to a 100% kill rate.) Follicles can go dormant for years, and it's very common for follicles to have over a year between hairs. Didn't they tell you this stuff? Sheesh. I hope it makes you wonder what's going on

All too often laser just sends a follicle into dormancy(like sleeping)and it produces hair as normal later on(sometimes years later)This is rare with properly done electrolysis.

Please understand that both methods have good and bad operators(and the bad ones should be tarred and feathered)Both methods have operators that believe their method/machine/treatment type is the only way, or the best. Just remember that everyone says electrolysis is permanant when done properly, but laser cannot make this claim!!!

I have spent half of what a small house would cost to be permanantly rid of my facial and neck hair, and I'm not yet done, but I've slowed down and should be nearly done in another year. I have five tiny pits where there was a bad reaction and no other scarring. I no longer shave my faceSo what would I do if I had to do it over again? I'd get two laser treatments(at a lower power!)to reduce the amount of hair the electrologist had to deal with and then begin electrolysis. I'd expect the entire process to take at least two years, and expect to go for short touch-ups every 3-6 months for a few more years.

I know several TS's; some have had the laser(many kinds)but none have been happy with the completeness or permanance of the results they've had. Some had so much growth return that they still have to shaveand after transition, there's not enough money to fix ix. None of the laser operators has ever refunded money or offered further treatment to compensate, but just pointed out that they never claimed permananceTo be fair, bad electrologists do the same thing, but the good ones will often reclear for free(or a reduced rate)once you've 'finished', thus keeping you away from the razorThe TS's that used a good electrologist have all been very happy with the results, and they reccommend only electrolysis.

The growth cycles of hair are why it takes so long; you must treat each follicle at the correct time(laser tries to work all at the same time); each pore contains several follicles(up to 15!); the hair can be halfway through it's life cycle before it even appears above the skin(2mm or more); and the next time that follicle erupts it may bring a totally different growth pattern for that hair!

There's no 'quick and easy' or cheap way to achieve permanant hair removal, and the ONLY method with a proven track record is standard electrolysis. Them's just the fact's maam!

Penny T

Written by MzzBeauty on 15 Jul 2003 00:13:14:

As an answer to: Re: CoolGlide Laser?Luv Ya Hon But... written by Penny T on 14 Jul 2003 02:08:35:

Hi Penny!!!

Loved your response! :: big hug ::

Penny, you're not bursting my bubble at all sweets!!!

I think everyone should really take what you said very deep to heart. Everything you said, in response to my post, is based not just on things you've read, but what you've lived through.

I thoroughly respect your knowledge and there is NO but.

This woman (my laser gal) is a very special gal. Full of incredibly positive energy and she's really up on her knowledge of hair. She's been in the business for 20 years. I trust her and I don't trust often. Can't explain why. As I said she too was VERY pessimistic about laser treatments and waited for the CoolGlide before she started using it for the majority of her clients.

I do believe the science behind what this laser does is quite sound and I also believe it.

Time will tell and I absolutely promise you I will let you know what is happening as I progress!

Your response comes out of caring. Not only for me, but for those who may read this and end up under the care of someone who could harm them or make false promises.

I do ask that everyone remain seated until the plane has come to a full stop. I have months to go before this plane pulls in to the main gate. I have landed though.

Yes, some of the hair jumped out. She used the second to lowest setting because she doesn't like to use the higher setting until she knows how a person's skin will react to the laser. She also warned that scarring could occur with to high of a setting for a first treatment. Trust me, I was asking her to blast em out of there!

I'm happy to report that everything looks fine. She followed up the next day with an e-mail asking me how I was doing and today as well.

I've been researching hair removal for several years and this was the first time I'd ever seen anything with the feedback from those who have used the CoolGlide laser. Folks who haven't had success with lasers have been very vocal.

I left lots of stuff out of the post because I just wanted to share what happened to me. Yes, hair grows in cycles. It's impossible to get all the hair in one sitting with a laser. I'm glad you let folks know this in case they go to someone who leads them to believe something that's not true. She tried to explain lots of basic stuff to me, but I was telling her where I'd read about what she was saying before she finished.

Laser technology is incredible. Surgeries that have been around 10 decades and have recovery times of months to years are now down to days and weeks. I had a hernia operation. In the old days I would have been down for several weeks, instead I was up and about in 2 days. Heart operations that use to require the removal of a rib cage can now be done with lasers. Knee injuries that caused careers to be over because of the intrusive surgery that would be needed and now these folks are working out after several months of rehab.

Laser hair technology is still in it's infancy, but in the past 5 years it has made incredible strides towards becoming a great technology to be used for hair removal. I believe in laser technology more than just this person or the CoolGlide laser. Regardless of what I think or anyone thinks time will truly tell, right?

Thank you Penny for responding!!!

Oh.. here's a raspberry for not having to shave anymore :p

Beauty

Written by Penny T on 15 Jul 2003 01:44:47:

As an answer to: Re: CoolGlide Laser?Luv Ya Hon But... written by MzzBeauty on 15 Jul 2003 00:13:14:

Thank You for taking it in the spirit it was intendedI do hope it works perfectly for you, and I would just LOVE to see a permanant and safe laser. I still have body hair to address, and even if it shows up after I'm finished it would still save everyone else a ton of moneyI haven't added it all up, but a conservative estimate for the work I've had done so far(face and neck):$18,000+That hurts to think about, but it's what I asked for so I have no room for complaintYou'd find it tough to spend that much on laser; you'd run out of hair firstOne reason I wrote concerns some earlier posting 'wars' I had with another soul here who used the new "SONA" laser. I notice her conspicuous absence since she claimed to have had her entire body finished and promised to stay in touch($5500); which co-incides with several reports from locals who used "SONA" with rotten results(regrowth, one claims her hair grows faster now!). This "Cool Glide" may have something going for it after alland I know you'll be here to give us an honest report

My best to you, and looking forward to the updates!
Penny T

Written by MzzBeauty on 27 Jul 2003 23:30:37:

Hi there,

Well, I'm now headed into Week 3.

I have to say everything is going exactly like my laserologist said it would. Ooops... I guess I should write her and tell her this too.

Last week was pretty funny. I didn't shave for the past 2 weeks just to see it fall out.

Well, I finally had to shave on Thursday morning because when I woke up there were like lines where she didn't go over with the laser. It looked like a new parted hair style on one side of my chin.

I think the visit after my August visit will be more than a month out. I say this because I can tell from the results of my first treatment she's gotten a great deal of the hair. I think after this visit she's going to catch a great percentage of the hair. So I imagine she'll start catching the new hair in cycle growth. From what my laserologist says and what you've heard from some here is, hair also grows in cycles and those cycles are 60 to 90 days apart. I feel she's going to get a great deal of the hair after the next visit. So I'm going to have to wait for these cycles to happen before I can go back.

In my last visit she really covered lots of the beard area. The percentage of my face that had hair which didn't fall out was about 5%. These hairs were long enough to pull on (roughly a centimeter).

My face feels smoother longer after I shave now. Today while driving my wife said she can definitely see places where hair is not growing.

During the week, I'd look in my wash rag and see hair. I'd be at work pulling on the little short hairs that were in there and they'd come out in my fingers. It was sooo cool! Finally on Wednesday night, I just sat there pulling out (no tugging) the remaining hair that would come out with out a tug. When I looked down at my chest it was covered with hair. So much so that I was able to brush it all together with my fingers to create a tiny pile.

My face feels smoother, there's no discoloration, the skin looks smoother. There's no more Homer Simpson shadow. For those who are new, for the first time in my life I had that shadow after the laser treatment. Someone who'd gone through laser was kind enough to tell me it happened to them too. There has been no hair growth on my cheeks. I hardly had any hair there anyway.

Thumbs up so far! There are most definitely places that are smooth on my chin and cheeks. I'm hoping these areas will stay as smooth as they have been for almost a week. Other places where the hair fell out are also smooth, but I'm more focused on areas that have been smooth longer. I'm wondering if the hair will come back there. Paranoid I'll be someone that it doesn't work on, is the reason for that!

So, that's the update for this week! I have my next appointment in a couple of weeks, I'll give an update again then, unless I do start feeling hair grow back in a smooth area. Then I'll let everyone know sooner.

See ya!
Beauty

Written by MzzBeauty on 06 Sep 2003 16:52:11:

Hi there,

Though some may just scroll down to see the new pictures LOL, I wanted to give an update on my Laser Hair Removal.

In two weeks I go back for my third treatment. I have a good news and bad news. The bad news is that my results are not the typical results. The good news is that I'm where I should be in 2 more months. In other words, ahead of schedule.

I referred to the news about my treatment going well as bad news only because I wanted to journal what the average person would go through and experience. Now there will have to be someone else who also tells about their journey so we can have two reports on it. Come to think of it, that would be better anyway.

The hair from the second treatment that was going to fall out has fallen out. So now when I do shave (electric razor) it feels like I have never had a facial hair. The smoothness is AMAZING.

When the hairs that still grow, they make up only about 25% or less of my chin area. So when I don't shave for a day or two I see patches 1/20 the size of dime here and there.

She didn't turn up the power because she was amazed the hair fell out on the lowest setting. The next visit she said she'll turn it up a notch. So my last visit was at the same setting as my first.

It was so cool when I went in for my second visit. My Laserologist was almost pumping her fist for joy. When she looked under the magnifying glass to begin the treatment she was even more enthused. She said she could see patches where hair wasn't growing anymore. I felt these, then tiny patches, but I felt more prickly hair than patches of smooth. Now the opposite is true. I feel more smooth than prickly hair. On my cheeks I only feel the peach fuzz that we all have (including GGs), but I haven't shaved there in a week and there is still no growth. I expect hair to grow there again, but for now there's nothing to shave there.

When I went for my makeover the makeup artist was amazed too because I'd only started in July. He told me he didn't expect to see the results so quick, but when he touched my face and chin he concurred it was working. He told me he has many clients who have done laser and don't shave anymore. I guess the word is just slowly getting out that changes in laser technology in the past 3 years have made huge gains in the fight to remove hair on a more permanent basis.

I know this post will meet with skepticism, but I'm telling the truth about my results. I will continue to post and I will be honest if hair grows back where it hasn't grown in a month or two. I feel I owe it to the board to warn, advise or encourage others based on my experience.

Ok, and now for the pictures.
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(You crossdressers-haven.com folks can see those pictures in the Gallery!)

Beauty

Written by Penny T on 07 Sep 2003 00:45:00:

As an answer to: Re: Hair Removal Update and new Pictures written by Penny T on 07 Sep 2003 00:20:02:

One more thing,

I have found a product that is equal to, or maybe a bit better than either the 4% or 5% Ela-Max and it's a WHOLE lot cheaper

ZAP Topical Anesthetic Gel by Germiphene comes in different scents. I like the Cool Mint myself. When I tried the samples that were sent to my electrolygist it was a Strawberry scent which stained the pillowcase so I've been more careful, and the cool mint doesn't seem to stain as bad. Both do not stain the skin, and appear to do as well as the ela-max after two trials. It comes in a little jar with a internal push-pump dispenser that takes some getting used to, or you'll get more than you wanted! It also seems to spread further than ela-max with equal resultsActive contents are: Benzocaine(18%)and Tetracaine Hydrochloride(2%)

The big difference is price, this stuff ships for under $10 US for 25grams, arrived in about 15 days after a phone order. Ela-max was costing me $12 US for 1/2 gram, and the big tube was $70

You might be able to find a distributor by contacting the manufacturer:
Germiphene Corp.
Brantford, Ontario, Canada
Phone: 1-800-265-9931

If they can't help, e-mail me(link active on this post)or post a message here and I'll find out where Andrea got it. She still has the paperwork from the distributor, and with the money you'll save, your wardrobe budget will be nicer to have fun with

Penny T

Written by MzzBeauty on 15 Sep 2003 02:57:40:

>I had my second LightSheer(tm) treatment a few days ago. The first treatment did a great job. There were some places she missed so the second treatment seems to have gotten those.
>My operator said to expect a big appearance of regrowth between the second and third treatments. She said that, in her experience, that is the time when you see the most hair seem to reappear. She said that actually it is hair from folicles that were dormant during the previous treatments.
>The owner of the place I go to asked me if I was doing anything to surpress testosterone and I said "No." She said that meant that the results would not be as good as a genetic woman's or as someone with surpressed testosterone. Guess I'll have to wait and see. Since I'm much more of a CD rather than TS, I'm not really likely to start hormones.
>At the moment I have far less shadow and think I could begin to get away without concealer. That would be so great!
>On the other hand, if you are thinking about laser, do it while you are young! I have a great many more coarse grey/transparent hairs than I realized! Unless I get them removed I will always have to continue to shave. Bummer! Also, now I'm beginning to get some increased pattern baldness and I wonder if I'll get rid of my beard in time to loose my hair! Bummer II!
>I have heard a rumor that there is some chemical that will color grey hair down to the root so the laser can get it. My operator said she would try to find out about it but that she normally doesn't like chemical treatments of any kind. (Could it be Melancor? http://www.melancor.com )
>As to the pain, well, for me, even after the numbing creme, each zap feels like a staple being shot into my face and the zaps are about 1/4" inch apart. Ouch! You can actually smell the singed hair. But, although I hate to quote the French, "Il faut suffrir pour etre belle" [One must suffer to be beautiful].
>I am lucky in that I am going along with one of my GG friends who is having some facial hair zapped off. So we stay with each other, chat with the operator, etc.
>I sure hope I end up looking beautiful! And I wish the same to everyone who tries it!
>Thanks to the gorgeous MzzBeauty, to the terrific Penny T, and to all the others who were part of the earlier archived thread.
>(LightSheer is a trademark of Coherent, Inc.)
>(Melancor is a product of Melancor Consumer Healthcare, but their website does not seem to indicate trademark nor registration)
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Hi Sandy!

I'm happy to hear about your treatment Laser is exciting isn't it?!?

I was glad to hear your first treatment went well! Now the board can hear from two people who've had really good success after their first treatment. I think you're going to be very pleased when you go back for your third.

I go for my 3rd treatment this week. When I shave it's really more like shaving areas instead of a beard. I shave such a small areas it's funny.

Well, today I was dreading putting on makeup. I showered and shaved about three very small patches of hair. There was no need to shave my entire face. So, I pulled out some facial powder and voila! That was all I needed. I didn't need to cake anything on. I do understand now why it's better to put on foundation first. The powder seems to come out more even.

I now understand how women can just put on light makeup and still look femme, but you can't tell they have makeup on. I then applied a little eye shadow. I put my hair in a ponytail and got dressed.

Anyone who is considering getting rid of facial hair, please know getting dressed and putting on makeup is a WHOLE lot easier!!! The last time I was made up it was because I had a professional makeover. As usual taking it off took forever. It's taking makeup off that is always so tedious for me. When I go to bed, I'd like to be able to wash my face and towel off and that be it. I think I'll be dressing more now that I've just discovered how much simpler it is to put on makeup.

Ok, back to laser hair removal.

I totally recommend using some kind of numbing cream. It does sting, so be prepared. Because I have more melanin in my skin my laser is more like a heavy zap but it's shorter. This is because my skin heats up quicker than skin with less melanin in it. My skin heats up because the hair is being zapped with a laser. The CoolGlide laser gets my skin super cool and so it doesn't get too hot. For lighter skin a lower zap (sorry, don't know the correct term) is used and the laser is left on longer. Either way it still stings and so I suggest you use a topical creme.

I can't wait to give the board an update about my 3rd treatment and Sandy I can't wait to hear how your's went!!!!

I can't tell you how smooth my face is and I really enjoy kissing my wife more because I don't feel like my stubble is poking her face. I almost press my face into hers... lol!

The regrowth has been much less after my second treatment. At first I didn't think so because as usual, after the treatment the hair grows out thicker. This gives the illusion as if there is more hair, but when it starts falling out you see it wasn't a large amount of hair. I would think that doesn't have to do with the type of laser, but it's hard to say really. My laserologist also did a great job on the first treatment and I think. Sandy, I'll be looking forward to hearing if more hair grew back for you this time.

I have to agree with others who said having more testosterone is probably better during hair removal treatments. I feel now I can be sure my hair is gone for good because I have no testosterone blocking going on right now. If I do ever take a testosterone blocker and stop, it would be awesome to know my facial hair isn't going to re-appear.

I agree with you about getting laser while you're younger. This way you can be sure you get the majority of your hairs.

Yes, you can smell the singed hair. Now I welcome the smell because I think of it as "bye, bye hair"

That's really cool you're going with friends to have your treatment. I tend to get their right on time. The first time I went I felt really nervous, the next time I went I didn't feel that nervous or subconscious about being there. To me now, it's like, "Whatever!"

I'm sure you'll end up looking just a gorgeous as you want to!!!

Thank you for your really nice comment.

Here's to laser!

Yours lovingly,
Beauty

Written by MzzBeauty on 18 Oct 2003 17:06:46:

As an answer to: Zap! Another Laser Treatment written by Sandy on 17 Oct 2003 10:49:26:

Hi Sandy (fellow zapstress)

I should have warned you, but I was so afraid about posting because of my 3rd visit I didn't warn you.

The good news is the 4th visit was a totally great visit.

Back to the 3rd visit. You're right Sandy. It was new hair. Meaning it wasn't coarse, it was very smooth to the touch. For some reason I thought this hair would be less painful to get zapped I guess. WRONG! It was the same zapp pain like the coarse hair.

There may be another wave of hair, but my laserologist believes this is the hair she'd been waiting for. So that's a good note. She said there will most likely be more, but not the level of the hair that was waiting 4 mos to pop up. Please forgive my wording. I'm totally dumbing down what she said.

It was almost like I didn't have any prior laser removal on my 3rd visit. When the hair starts falling out this time say goodbye because my face has never been smoother. There was only one tiny, less than the side of a dime size, area that ran along the bottom of my chin that grew hair. She must have missed it and an area the size of a pin head right below my nose where hair grew from my 3rd to 4th visit. She got it this time though.

After my 3rd treatment my face actually had tiny heat bumps here or there. This lasted for about a day or two? It was also the first time I'd actually seen swelling too.

I am happy to report no scarring at all. To those who have to choose someone make sure you've chosen wisely and not hastily.

Thank you Sandy for posting about your 3rd treatment. I posted about my 4th visit in another thread. I hope yours goes the same as mine did.

Beauty

LOL.. Hi Sandy.

It looks like we are on the same zap schedule.

I think this was your third, it was my fourth. I'll comment about the 3rd treatment in your thread. I will say the third one, was DEFINITELY the most hurtful of all of the treatments. She put it on 25. ouch!!! Like Penny said, a hairless face is worth a few minutes of pain.

This one, my fourth treatment, was a total walk in the park.

I truly, truly, truly believe that the amount of hair that is going to grow this time will be super minimal. The most painful parts are on the upper lip and the lower lip. Last time I thought there was no hair growing I was wrong. OUCH! This time there was hardly any "zap" on my upper lip and to be honest I didn't really shave much, if at all during the 4 weeks on my upper lip.

This time the laser barely hit anything. It was super refreshing. She said after the next visit she's going to move my appointments back because the laser didn't find too many hairs.

So Sandy, be happy. lol I think your fourth visit will be very pleasant. We've seemed to have the same experiences with our treatments so look forward to treatment number 4, but just in case, gob on the topical creme!!!

It was funny because of the last visit I put on enough to numb a whale, but guess what? I showed up a half an hour early!!! I couldn't believe it! I could feel it becoming less numb and I was so bummed. Then the treatment started and I was waiting for MEGA-ZAPS, but only got teeny tiny ones. Nothing like any of the other treatments.

A GG friend of mine has been doing a touch test after each treatment. She told me this time it felt smooth as she rubbed her hand down and up. (This was after the 3rd treatment, she hasn't seen me since my treatment last night). She said it was the first time she didn't feel much going backwards/against the grain.

Sandy and I are doing this for those who one day research this themselves. So here's to magical laser treatment #4.

Beauty

Written by MzzBeauty on 24 Dec 2003 00:28:09:

This time I did put the topical creme on an hour before my treatment. Thanks Penny!!! No matter how much I put on though, I still felt the tiny pinch from the laser. However, it was not significant. It was stupid of me to not put much topical creme on and think there would be no pain. By the time I got home my face wasn't stinging. Usually everytime I get home I still feel the laser stings. Not this time though. :: insert happy dance ::

Still, I'm done telling people it won't sting. But I will tell you it's great to not shave! I went 2 1/2 weeks with out touching a razor or an electric razor. My face was smooth and it didn't look like I ever needed to shave. I could count the amount of hairs that had grown.

Odd moment
She told me "this is it". My heart dropped. I thought of Sandy. I thought, "OH NO!! I'm going to have to pay more money and I've only had six treatments!! The board is going to stone me!!!" Luckily she was referring to the fact that this would be my last entire face laser treatment. :: insert a second happy dance :: She said from here it's only touch ups. She couldn't believe I hadn't shaved in 2 1/2 weeks, but it was true.

What are you doing with that needle?
I also got a new experience. Electrolysis!!! That's right. She found a gray hair and she pulled out her electrolysis needle and zapped that for me. If you're young and are considering getting laser, get it now!! In the amount of time it took for her to do the one hair she's usually made two passes on my chin lasering lots more hair. She told me she gets faster when she gets going, but she still said she could never come even close to keeping up with a laser.

Karin
I told her about Karin's regrowth around the lips. She told me that this is wear the most blood circulates because people talk, eat, and pretty much use this area the most. She said because of this there is an increased amount of hair growth and would require more treatments than other hair. She said the chin and around the lips take the longest to treat. The hair right under the nose she said is just hard to reach. She made sure we worked on those areas for me. Thank you Karin!!!

New Laser Treatment guidelines
I also learned a few things. I'm not sure if it's the CoolGlide laser or not, but people who aren't licensed Electroloysists, RNs, a certified skin expert (I forget the name), or a doctor can't use them anymore. She was contacted by an engineer who had one and was giving treatments. For some reason instead of going to school he had to sell his laser device.

Ok, until next time!!

Beauty

Ok, so I took off from the January and February. I didn't visit her at all to have a session.

I went last night to have another laser hair removal session. I'll write about that next.

That was more work than I thought to move all of that over here.

I think it's important though.

Beauty

Thanks so much for keeping us posted on your progress! I look forward to hearing about your next visits.

If not this year, then I am definitely hoping that by next year I can commence Laser Hair Removal treatments myself.