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A Question for SOs only (CD's speak)

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Amber(SO) wrote:I am relatively new to knowing about my husbands CDing but I can think of several things right off the top of my head...
What benefit, if any, do you get from your man dressing up?

Now He knows what it feels like to wear 4 inch heels and underwire bras!! Also, he's fun to shop with and spends more on me if he's getting stuff too.

What does it do for you?

thigh high stockings and thong panties...well we'll just say we don't go to sleep early anymore.

- How does it make you feel now?

I still feel confused about why, but then I can also say that about why does the sky look so cool when you see a rainbow.

I kind of think about CDing like a rainbow, every color only makes it look more beautiful. Accept things as they are and be happy about things you cherish. If you try to change them, you are only going to make them tarnished and ugly.

XOXO Amber
Now, Amber, if you'll just step into this cloning device here... :lol: :wink:

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Amber(SO) wrote:CJ,
Thanks, you are a true lady.
XOXO, Amber
Er, um, well, ah, yes and no. :wink: But, thanks, Amber! :)

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Lorna(SO) wrote:Hi there.

Its been a while since I visited the site so now I have returned to see how things are going this caught my eye. The questions Melissa you have asked are spot on I think...my answers are however not quite the same.

What benefit do I get? None personally, I am happy that he feels able to share such personal feelings with me but there is nothing I gain from it. He is fulfilled and I feel awkward around him. It causes no end of trouble if I am honest with him...as such I keep my truthful opinions to myself when he asks...I hate not being truthful but I don't want to hurt him anymore than I have already.......

What does it do for me? It actually turns me off him sexually. I try to think of someone else when it comes to sex together, I role play with him in body to please him but emotionally inside I am a million miles away. I do all I can to speed up the process so I can go to sleep or get on with something else....anything else to block out how I truly feel! I know its a part of him, I know I have to accept the whole person and I do try but don't ask me to accept the crossdressing as something I have to like. For the sake of our relationship I am hanging in there but its DARN HARD!!

How does it make me feel now? As above really! I am the SO who seems to be on the other end of the scale to those SO here who have accepted and now encourage/support their CDr. I do have a faith like some have mentioned and I battle with my feelings and what I believe to be right and true.

I don't share the thought that God has made these people like this, my partner was not born this way! I think that circumstances and relationships in childhood have swayed them into finding a comfort in CDing that they could not find elsewhere, and its grown from there....I am sure many will disagree and I apologise if I offend anyone!

I am yet again at odds with my partner. Unfortunately its because I miss having sex with him without him being dressed up, if only for the odd occasion, and he says he can't do it without being CD as he feels something is missing. What can I do? Why does my life suddenly feel like its spiralling downwards with no safety net?

Sorry for rambling, things are a little hectic and I knew I could let off steam here and hopefully get some support....oh for friends nearby!
My partner is away next week for a trip with his male friends from work so I am sure I will benefit from time out!! LOL

I hope I have been honest but also not upset anyone....I don't mean to!
Hopefully next time you hear from me it will be better news....

Ciao for now.
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Lorna, be honest. Are you my wife using another name? Everything you say except for the part of having sex, Nancy is not allowed in the bed room, reads just as though my wife would have written it.

My wife and I have been at odds with my CDing and my being CD ever since I came out to her 24 years ago. Communication, and love have been what has kept us together. I have always felt or thought about our relationship and our marriage as compared to others as living out side of the box. So it does require some diffrent parameters then the "normal" marriage does.

I wish my wife would be honest all the way with me as I have been with her but like you she skirts the truth for what she feels is for my own good. That my dear is often a wrong assumption. By not being honest about how you feel you are putting your self in the closet your CDer is coming out of and in time it will start to get to you just like it has to us.

Sorry if I am not supose to post here but I really feel and hear what you are saying and felt a real need to comment.
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Hi all,

Lorna,

My heart goes out to you. I'm hoping that, in your eyes, my being a crossdresser doesn't lessen the impact of whatever encouragement I can offer you.

First, you may think of yourself as the odd-girl out but, while it may be true on this forum, I think how you feel is probably more representative of the thinking of most women out there who are partnered with CDs (no, I have no stats to back this up, it's intuitively true, to me). So, please, don't feel alienated on that account. :wink:

I'm glad you spoke your true feelings. This might be strictly a numbers issue, but while there are many tales here of woe and wishes for fulfillment on the part of crossdressers (and I'm not trying to minimize the importance of anyone's experience), I find that many of the SOs who post, while true and sincere in their feelings and views, seem to feel they need to tread the ground of their own woes in a very delicate and politic manner, for fear of offending and injuring others. I, for one, am not as interested in how I think an SO should feel about her partner's CDing as I am in how she truly, really feels. I want to know and I want to learn what impact my behaviour (and, yes, my being) has on those I love. Only then is there any possibility for me to re-examine the nature and the quality of my relationships with those people.

As for the etiology (or the cause) of transvestism, it matters only insofar as it relates to the possibility of change. The verdict is still out, but the jury leans toward social and environmental factors being more determinant in the appearance of gender variance than do genetic or endocrinological ones. If I'm born this way (or if God made me this way--the metaphysical variation of destiny), then little room is left for change. I need take no responsibility for who I am (and for the effects my behaviour may have on other people). If, on the other hand, my crossdressing is a result of deep-rooted psychological processes, then some measure of accommodation and compromise is possible... if I know myself well enough, that is. Here, therapy can help. Especially in my being able to more accurately gauge the extent to which I can (or cannot) balance my own needs against those of my loved ones.

Again, Lorna, thanks for sharing yourself with us. I hope that you and your SO may eventually come to a place where you can truly meet, both in the bedroom and out. Nevertheless, if you can't do that, your feelings certainly matter no less than his. And I hear you.

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Hi and a big thankyou to you all.

I seem to have this nack of making some of you feel like I may in fact be your wife under some pseudonym, well I can reassure you Nancy that I am not. I in fact know nobody here that I am aware of, hope for your sakes your wifes are not truly like me! LOL :lol:

I take all your kind advice and reassurance no matter what side you are on in this forum as I believe we can all help each other in some way...I will try to work things out bearing in mind all your suggestions. Thanks again!

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Lorna, of course I don't think of you as my wife, silly thing that would be, cause believe me there is and only could be one wife like my wife. It was just in what you had written that I saw my wife expressing some of the same thoughts and issues. :oops:
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I knew what you meant Nancy, its ok! :)

I am sure some of the posts here may also sound like my partner if I looked at them thoroughly!! :lol:

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Lorna wrote.
I don't share the thought that God has made these people like this, my partner was not born this way! I think that circumstances and relationships in childhood have swayed them into finding a comfort in CDing that they could not find elsewhere, and its grown from there....I am sure many will disagree and I apologise if I offend anyone!
Hi Lorna.

I am a Christian and a Cross-dresser, and I do not support the thought that God has made me like this, But I may well have been born this way!

God created Adam in the image of God. God only created man kind once, since then we have been born, not created. After the fall in the garden of Eden Man kind have been born in the image of Adam. And as a result we have had a messed up world ever since then. And it is only by the Grace of God, through his Son, that I have been able to be at peace with who I am today, and realize that my cross-dressing is indeed a blessing instead of a curse.

I don't know if this will help you, but I have to try.

Respectfully.
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I think part of what scares us, especially as a woman whom shares everything wiht ther best friends, mum. Is that I have(or I should say had) no one to vent this over with. It kills me I can not share this with my bestfriend, at least not for the time being, probably never.

I know for my husband I am his best friend and the one he trust. But girls are brought up so different in the sense, that we do talk about very personal things witht our friend. Things most men would never share with their male friends. The hardest thing for me, is to simply keep shut up about it.

It simply feels like my hands are tied.
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Hi all,

Tammy,

I have to ask: are there specific circumstances that prevent you from sharing this with your best friend? You're not alone; if you need support, get it--whichever way you can. Your hands may not be as tied as you believe they are.

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Tammy,
After my SO came out, I felt the same way. I talked to him about how I felt as far as needing to vent to someone close to me (other than him). He said to talk to whomever I felt would keep it confidential. I chose someone who I knew would be mature and non-judgemental and vented my heart out. The funny thing is, she made me realize how I truly sounded. I was angry, confused, and very defensive. She made me think twice about what my mind was saying versus what my heart was saying. It helped so much. Talk to your SO and see if there is one person he would feel confident about you confiding in. He may understand that you need support on the home front.

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Hi all,

Tammy,

I'm sorry to hear your relative isolation has brought you down a bit. I hope that you feel you can get at least some support from sites such as this one as well as from CDSO sites.

If I may make two suggestions:

First, you may need to talk with your DH about your feelings regarding his refusal to let you share this load with a trusted friend. It doesn't seem fair that he would entrust you with this secret only on the condition that you never do the same with someone else. That's major pressure. In my own life, I've never known my SOs not to share this with someone they trust (whether or not I, myself, trusted these people was almost immaterial--and I was okay with that, out of respect for the fact that this had to do with my SO's emotional welfare more than it did with mine).

Second, you may want to discuss your feelings about the "one-way" direction of your friendships. I'm sure those friends you do have, if they are truly your friends, will be open and willing to hear you out. Confide. Communicate. Converse. Don't stay isolated. What we often imagine are walls between ourselves and others are often only erected in our own minds.

Anyway, I want you to know, Tammy, that I do understand what you're going through; many other SOs (and, believe it or not, CDs as well) go through the same thing. Emotional and psychological isolation is a great destroyer of souls. Fight it any which way you can.

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I can completely relate to this topic. Isolation is what I do best. There's a reason I still have no friends after moving here over a year ago. My closest friends are ladies I've never met face to face but on sites like this a CDSO. They are the ones I cry to, vent to, reach out to, etc...Simply because of my fear of making new friends. That and laziness. It's too big a bother to me and I'm more comfortable hiding out. And then I end up miserable so I HAVE to make the efforts to walk through all of my own crap so that I don't end up isolated and feeling so alone.

My DH is so horrified of anyone finding out about his CDing that I am the number one confidant and I have shared on many occasions that this can be burdensome for me at times. I have encouraged him to get outside support, for us to join a group together, etc... and he refuses thus far. We are currently in couples therapy and it's the next big issue I'm going to bring up. I feel torn between how things will change and feeling so isolated. I want and need support and I think it would be good for him as well. He will only consider going to meetings in another city that is 2 hours away. So, of course we haven't gone yet.

Anyway, you are definately not alone on this. And my sister does know but she lives in another state so it's not like I can just chat about my feelings regarding CDing with her every day or much. You should talk to him about how you are feeling. That's what I keep doing and I haven't given up hope yet.

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