Why do they do that?

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Sat May 29, 2004 1:30 pm

Maybe this is not "Fun Stuff" and it really does not need a reply, but I can't get it out of my mind. I took my wife to the store the other day after work. I just stayed in the car while she went in. Two young girls pulled up and parked both were, best guess 17 -19? One, a brunette had a beautiful face. Now get this she had on a red micro-mini and she had a little "pot bellY" that hung out over the top of the skirt, she wore a cropped, white pullover, and and and white 3" heel GO GO boots with little white booty socks. She walked up to the store with her friend, both were smoking so they waited outside to finish. This girl put her foot up on a bench to adjust her boot and ( I know it was not for my benefit) she had no underware on. Now at first its funny, but that is someone's daughter and to dress like that in public - I wanted to - I don't know what I wanted to do - lecture her, spank her, take her to her parent(s) and let them she her! Why? She was not even fashionably dressed, and I don't think she was a hooker - too young (I know there are young ones, but she did not seem the type) The other girl was dirty blonde with capri pants and no bra with sandels. When my wife came out she asked me if I had seen the show and I just shook my head yes and drove home. Why do girls do that? I was really rather sad to see such a pretty girl in that context!

Gelinda · Post by **Gelinda** » Sat May 29, 2004 3:43 pm

Deborah, About a week ago I saw a young girl of about that age riding a bicycle that way. I wanted to do the same as you call mom and dad or something. Gee

Post by **Celia** » Sat May 29, 2004 8:43 pm

Most likely the only ones who could really answer why would be the young women in question. I'm probably not the only person who wouldn't have the nerve to ask, though.

-Celia

Lorna · Post by **Lorna** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:31 pm

I've seen it too. It's a very painful sight to see when a girl so young dresses in such a way. It's as sickening as seeing a 10 y.o. in makeup. But teenagers always will dress very provocatively to the point where an adult's head will spin. History repeats itself I guess.

What I can't believe is that the fashions girls were wearing when I was in high school (late 80s) are back in style! I'm getting old...

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:35 am

Lorna Wrote; I'm getting old...

Maybe just lucky, if it takes you back to your youth?

Josey · Post by **Josey** » Sun May 30, 2004 7:23 am

Hi Deborah,

It is very hard to see kids wasting what they have is such a way. I always wanted to be that young wholesome beautiful girl and the ones who do have it throw it away. It's pitiful.

Also, to Lorna, don't worry about getting old. Take it from someone who knows (high school in the late fifties!), getting old is better than the alternative.

Gaven McLaren · Post by **Gaven McLaren** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:54 am

Sadly the parents may not know that the kids are dressed that way. I remeber my sister in Junior high being able to pull a full outfit out of a very small purse. She would leave the house wearing one thing and change when she got to school.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Mon May 31, 2004 2:14 pm

Hi girls,

Having had a teenage daughter who is very beautiful, I must admit that I did draw the line with certain clothes. However, my daughter was always very modest and still is. She will not let her nipples show, she won't wear a thong bikini, in fact I have not seen her in a bikini but a few times, as she hates wearing them because of how men look at her.

Having said all that, I must say that because of my own need to express myself with what many consider inappropriate clothing, I can not bring myself to judge others for doing so. Perhaps if I were an attractive young lady I would like the powerful feeling they must get from dressing so provocatively. In any event, my love of women in general makes it impossible for me not to notice provocatively dressed young women in admiration anyway. Sorry I can't feel the moral wrongness that most of you feel, I just don't.
One girl's opinion
Love always,
Elizabeth

Post by **Celia** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:00 pm

Elizabeth wrote:Hi girls,

Having had a teenage daughter who is very beautiful, I must admit that I did draw the line with certain clothes. However, my daughter was always very modest and still is. She will not let her nipples show, she won't wear a thong bikini, in fact I have not seen her in a bikini but a few times, as she hates wearing them because of how men look at her.

Having said all that, I must say that because of my own need to express myself with what many consider inappropriate clothing, I can not bring myself to judge others for doing so. Perhaps if I were an attractive young lady I would like the powerful feeling they must get from dressing so provocatively. In any event, my love of women in general makes it impossible for me not to notice provocatively dressed young women in admiration anyway. Sorry I can't feel the moral wrongness that most of you feel, I just don't.
One girl's opinion
Love always,
Elizabeth

Hmm . . . if I recall correctly, I was trying to avoid making any overt judgements in my post. But I can't deny that what Deborah and Gelinda described baffled me--girls are taught from an early age to diligently keep that part of their anatomy hidden from public view, at least if their are any males about.

In hindsight, though, I've concluded that the incidents described aren't really all that mysterious, let alone disturbing. Anyone who watches a moderate amount of TV or a few movies has heard references to "going commando" or the comfort of an "unfurnished basement". Within the last couple of weeks there have been posts on the internet regarding (the presumably fictional) National No-Panties Day. Heck, I even came across a fashion web site suggesting that it might actually be acceptable for someone to "go light" if it helped her avoid the dreaded VPL.

Mix in your typical teenage hubris and lack of judgement, and the surprise is not that this has happened, but that it hasn't happened a heck of a lot more. Indeed, it probably has--most girls, or even women, who've done this have probably just done a better job at keeping the curtains lowered and avoiding the unintended quick path to showbiz.

In any case, I don't think it's anything to worry about--they'll be serving Ben & Jerry's in the Ninth Circle of Hell before the sort of spectacle Deborah and Gelinda witnessed becomes a trend.

Yours,
Celia

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:18 pm

My wife and I have decided that the best we can do is teach them right from wrong;to respect other people and their ideas--step back and hope for the best.

Deborah

Bernice · Post by **Bernice** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:09 pm

Please forgive the transparent attempt to be more philosophical. I think the root problem revealed here may stem from a pervasive lack of self-esteem. This is also evidenced by other common self-destructive behaviours of teenagers such as body-piercing, tatoos, drugs, illicit sex, alchohol abuse, smoking, etc. etc.

The public schools thought that if they took away the stigma of wrong answers or grading tests according to a bell curve, that this would bestow self-esteem equally on all students - as in a perfect society. The problem is that society is not perfect, and self-esteem has to be earned. This is not easy, and it takes a personal effort. It takes failure, and perseverence, and determination. Children and/or young adults have to accomplish something in their lives that posed some measurable degree of difficulty before they can have self-esteem.

Self-esteem is not an entitlement. It can never simply be granted. But once you can begin to respect yourself, you begin to understand the value of life, and dispense with self-destructive behaviour.

But that is just my warped Kansas (over 50) conservative perspective.

Hugs,

Bernice

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:50 am

I like this thread!

I think this whole topic should ring true for lots of CD'rs who put on the highest heels and wear the shortest dresses/skirts possible. This should be an (in the mirror) thread.

Though the men TG'd folk will wear undies (for various reasons) I do think those two girls you described in the first post of the thread were the 'typical' CD'rs I read about dressing on most CD'd sites.

So I relate with their maturity. I actually respect their statement (the girls), but I don't respect what their shortsightedness will do to them in the long run. It's good to say, "I don't care what you think!" It's bad to say, "I'm cheap" or "I don't care about myself or anyone". Lots of CD'rs make the same mistakes, but like those girls they mature to.

Being feminine is powerful. How you choose to exploit that power is up to the individual. Meaning, they can choose to control a person's arousal or they can choose to use it for positive things like, nurturing, support, and unconditional acceptance and love.

I believe that most, if not all CD'rs go through a "Girl on the bench with no panties on" (in private or mentally) which gives them the strength internally to tell the world they don't care what anyone thinks. Some, thankfully, never show that side and grow out of it. However if you look at Yahoo Profiles sometimes. People have pictures of their keisters in the air with thigh highs on only.

Ok...

Gwen · Post by **Gwen** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:12 am

I don't have the experience dealing with youngsters that age but I wonder if it was the raging hormone syndrome. Girls can get awfully aroused too.

My daughter never went without panties (I think), but she certainly did enjoy wearing attractive mini skirts and blouses. They looked nice on her and her maturity warrented my trust.

Just a thought!

Gwen

BillieMar · Post by **BillieMar** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:23 am

TO ADD MY COMMENTS TO THE PRECEEDING WRITINGS:

Girls are just girls, they don't care how they look to others! Style, class, manners, character, and personalty are gone people. The new world is take me as I am, that's why us crossdressers can do what we do more openly now than any other time in history!

I'm 57, have a pot belly, am not feminine at all yet feel ok walking into a donut shop dressed in a black cami, 2" blue sandal heels, and short short jeans cutoffs to purchase 3 donuts. I wear my hair long, jewelry on my wrists, ears and fingers having big hands and feet. Imagine what people think when they see me. I could care less and so do those girls!

WAKE UP AMERICA - mind your own business thinking what you may! Accept what it is - free dress! It's called being "open mindedness"

CHOW
Billiemar

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:45 pm

Some of the SO's may want to broach this witisism: I have heard that "Women don't dress for men; they dress for other women." I guess my observance of the two young "ladies" in question was as several of my sisters have stated, primarily a case of immaturity! I'll buy that!
Deborah

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