Are we girls?

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:57 pm

Hi girls,

I have been thinking about this over the last several days, but most of you I truely think of as girls. I have chatted with people for years and in my life most of my closest friends have been women. Men and women definitely speak differently.

When I went to meet a member of this forum and she called me, she later told me she was startled to hear a man answer the phone. And I have to say, that I was equally suprised to hear a man asking for Elizabeth.

I guess my point is, that while some members here do seem to talk from a male perspective, most really seem to be girls to me and I just can't think about you any other way. Even after meeting another member of this forum and seeing he was a man, she still seemed like herself to me. She was still a girl to me, even seeing she was man did not change that even while I was speaking to her in person.

Today I went out again, except this time in full dress. I had on new coulettes(pastel pink floral) pink knit top, long pink earrlings with pink stars on them, the usual accessories. My son went with me. I really felt like a girl. I finally felt like I was being true to myself. Yes it was just a quick trip to the grocery store, but it might as well have been Madison Square Garden with me at center court.

So? Are we girls, or are we just kidding ourselves?

Love always,
Elizabeth

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:07 pm

Well I read this post, went and wrote to Gelinda and tried to determine what she expected from us and responded to a few other posts then came back here hoping that some of my sisters would have responded. I hate to be the first, because a lot of the girls here are so much more prolific and intelligent and well-spoken than I. I can only say, yes I think I am a girl in several ways, not plumbing-wise but , I can walk in 4" heels and a mini and look good. I can smile and nod and gester. I can perhaps think like a girl, I have not gotten the reasoning aspect down yet and probably never will. Remember the story I told about asking what time it is and being told how to build a watch? Sorry, but my mind just does not work that way and I am sure never will. Can I dress Deborah up and look at her and get turned on, YES!!! Lesbian?? Red blooded male who loves beautiful women, YES. Am I a girl - as much as I love being!!
Deborah

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:16 pm

Elizabeth,

I just love kidding myself, and do not have a problem with it.

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:30 pm

My sis,
A woman of few words but stated with true brevity, right to the heart!
Love ya,
Deborah

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:33 pm

Hi girls,

That is exactly how I see. If I am fooling myself, I seem to be ok with it, but like I said, you all are girls to me, and I know about myself, and have for a very long time.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:35 pm

Darlene,

I know you read these, think of the perfect thing to say, then say it. If you are not doing that, your ability to combine brevity with subtile sarcasm is uncanny and put a smile on my face.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Merinda · Post by **Merinda** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:18 am

Hi Elizabeth ,

I have often thought about that myself , I would find it strange to hear a mans voice if I were to speak to anyone on this forum .

Alexandra · Post by **Alexandra** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:24 am

one word: helium

better mickey mouse than barry white

SophieLawson · Post by **SophieLawson** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:30 am

I don't know Elizabeth, but I am me lol and I guess we are all just being what we really are, free.

I do look at everyone on here as Girls too

Sophie xx

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:35 am

Elizabeth,

Thank you, although I am quite capable of using subtle sarcasm, one of the things I enjoy about life is having fun, and I do not have to think about things like that. when I read your words my response was right there, it was automatic. I am able to put smiles on people faces without much effort, and enjoy doing that at every opportunity I get.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:58 am

Darlene,

Love always,
Elizabeth

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:59 am

Hi all,

Iv'e been very busy this week and only had time for a post or two each day, so I missed all this.

Very interesting point Elizabeth, I also see everyone here as girls, it never crosses my mind otherwise.

I don't drop subtle sarcasm in (at least I try not to unless at myself) but I do drop subtle thought provoking things in (subtle ? who am I kidding, as subtle as a cder in a clothes shop) there I go again, I bounce ideas backwards and forwards until I confuse myself. Which is just what is happening here, I think ? Or do I ? Don't know !!!!

There, Iv'e always wanted to use that smiley.

Right, what was the topic again ?

Oh Yes, I remember. Does that mean everyone here has men's voices ?
Surely not.

I'm painting a picture at the moment and took five minutes out as the horse I was painting was starting to look like a bull !

Ah well Back to the china shop

Love ya's all
Rebecca xxx

CJ · Post by CJ » Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:03 am

Hi all,

Rebecca:

Your mind is like a tumbleweed. I love reading your posts! (Perhaps you should lay off the mesquite for a while.

)

Elizabeth,

I think of myself as a girl only insofar as I think of any real girl as a girl first. What I mean is, when I meet a woman for the first time, it doesn't automatically register from the get-go that this person before me is a female. No, I just tend to stay open to her being a human being first; she's a woman only "accidentally" (in the sense of the word used by Aristotle). Same goes for when I "meet" myself; I'm a human being first, and a man who occasionally feels like a woman, second.

Like you, if I were to hear a sister's voice over the phone (and I have, by the way), it would take nothing away from the person I'd come to know and love on this forum, whether she be a girl, a not-girl, or something in between. In a very real sense, we're a "brotherhood of sisters" (this is something that certainly distinguishes us from the beloved SOs, here).

Having said all this, I'll partly agree with Darlene, in that, I'm having a lot of fun kidding myself by pretending to be a girl. I'm having so much fun, in fact, that I hardly notice that, by doing so (being a girl, that is), I'm also being completely faithful to who I really am, deep down inside.

I think that's all that really matters, in the end.

Love,
CJ

Lorna · Post by **Lorna** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:16 am

Good topic!! I do look at all of you here as girls, or better yet women. Even though we may be physically and genetically male, you're all still ladies to me!!

Interesting side note - a lot of my GG friends I hang out with as Lorna say they consider me a woman, even though they know that I am CD. I remember this one time entering a restaurant with a GG friend and as we were passing through the enterance, I held the door open for her and said "Real ladies first." She simply looked at me with a shocked expression and said, "What do you mean real ladies first? As far as I'm concerned, you're every bit of a woman as I am."

Why would I argue with that?

In the eyes of my friends, Lorna is not a CD - she's a woman. I'll take that! No complaints here...

Jassmine(SO) · Post by **Jassmine(SO)** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:56 pm

Howdy Y'all

CJ wrote:

I'm also being completely faithful to who I really am, deep down inside.

I think that's all that really matters, in the end.

*Hugs & Love*